Lust and pride, then, are two sides of the same coin. Which makes sense, the one being the physical embodiment of the other. I wonder, then, if it's not that lust for women was the cause of the angels' downfall, but rather its embodiment. That would be the ultimate mockery of the Incarnation, brought about through a union of God and a woman in the very reversal of everything that demonic lust represents.
I like the way you're thinking about this, especially the connection to the Incarnation. Your brief elucidation here is an example of how we might discover deep truths in the lust-centric version of the fall of the angels, despite its theological difficulties.
I think it was St Ephraim of Syria in his "Hymns ✍🏼☦️🌴on Paradise" that speaks of God actually allowing 'death' as a 'mercy' to humans. We face death by our own sinful choosing, yet our Lord lets us [economia] fall to the ground as seeds, shedding our bodily husk of dust and ash to be wholly remade [providence] into our primordial state by the Uncreated Divine Light of the 🔥 Grace of Christ's Resurrection. Fallen angels are immortal and, as far as we know, remain forever 'stuck' with their eternal choice. Lord, have mercy, keep us from rejecting the precious Gift of Salvation in Jesus Christ and His Church. As creatures made in the Image and Likeness of the Holy Trinity, we are graced with the will to accept or reject. No one is saved alone.
When Adam and Eve tasted of the fruit of the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil, I sense that something carnal was revealed to them, else why would they have covered themselves or felt shameful about their bodies?. Perhaps lust was the first step, which would then mirror the fallen angels' sin you write about. Satan might have foisted the same lust on our first parents out of spite and malevolence. Since the demons had no redemption, why not hurt the lower beings that God had created - sort of a thumbing a nose at God Himself. By the way, Blessed Catherine of Emmerich mentions giants in her writings. Thank you for this very thought-provoking post!
I'm fascinated by Adam and Eve's urge to cover themselves after the Fall. We've heard (or seen in art) that part of the story so many times that it's just taken for granted, but it really is quite mysterious when you try to think it through. Your theory is a thought-provoking one—it never occurred to me to connect their newfound sense of shame with the lustful disorders of the fallen angels.
Lust and pride, then, are two sides of the same coin. Which makes sense, the one being the physical embodiment of the other. I wonder, then, if it's not that lust for women was the cause of the angels' downfall, but rather its embodiment. That would be the ultimate mockery of the Incarnation, brought about through a union of God and a woman in the very reversal of everything that demonic lust represents.
I like the way you're thinking about this, especially the connection to the Incarnation. Your brief elucidation here is an example of how we might discover deep truths in the lust-centric version of the fall of the angels, despite its theological difficulties.
I think it was St Ephraim of Syria in his "Hymns ✍🏼☦️🌴on Paradise" that speaks of God actually allowing 'death' as a 'mercy' to humans. We face death by our own sinful choosing, yet our Lord lets us [economia] fall to the ground as seeds, shedding our bodily husk of dust and ash to be wholly remade [providence] into our primordial state by the Uncreated Divine Light of the 🔥 Grace of Christ's Resurrection. Fallen angels are immortal and, as far as we know, remain forever 'stuck' with their eternal choice. Lord, have mercy, keep us from rejecting the precious Gift of Salvation in Jesus Christ and His Church. As creatures made in the Image and Likeness of the Holy Trinity, we are graced with the will to accept or reject. No one is saved alone.
When Adam and Eve tasted of the fruit of the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil, I sense that something carnal was revealed to them, else why would they have covered themselves or felt shameful about their bodies?. Perhaps lust was the first step, which would then mirror the fallen angels' sin you write about. Satan might have foisted the same lust on our first parents out of spite and malevolence. Since the demons had no redemption, why not hurt the lower beings that God had created - sort of a thumbing a nose at God Himself. By the way, Blessed Catherine of Emmerich mentions giants in her writings. Thank you for this very thought-provoking post!
I'm fascinated by Adam and Eve's urge to cover themselves after the Fall. We've heard (or seen in art) that part of the story so many times that it's just taken for granted, but it really is quite mysterious when you try to think it through. Your theory is a thought-provoking one—it never occurred to me to connect their newfound sense of shame with the lustful disorders of the fallen angels.